LAPLACE’S DEMON: AN INTERVIEW THROUGH TIME

Gabrielle Birchak/ May 6, 2025/ Early Modern History, Enlightenment, Modern History, Post Classical/ 0 comments

Wel­come to Math! Sci­ence! His­to­ry! I’m Gabrielle Bir­chak. I have a back­ground in math, sci­ence and jour­nal­ism. Today, I am doing some­thing extra­or­di­nary. I’ve used the­o­ret­i­cal physics, spec­u­la­tive time trav­el, and a hefty dose of curios­i­ty, and a lit­tle bit of arti­fi­cial intel­li­gence to trav­el back in time to the Enlight­en­ment and inter­view the amaz­ing French poly­math and math­e­mat­i­cal physi­cist Pierre Simon Laplace. In this inter­view, we will talk about his math­e­mat­ics, his philoso­phies, and his demon.

Today, I trav­el back to the nine­teenth cen­tu­ry to meet with Pierre-Simon Laplace, a man who imag­ined a super-intel­li­gence so pow­er­ful, it could cal­cu­late the entire his­to­ry and future of the uni­verse. Laplace was a French poly­math born in 1749. He lived a rich life for sev­en­ty-sev­en years. He was a supreme­ly bril­liant sci­en­tist whose the­o­ries were foun­da­tion­al to astron­o­my, math­e­mat­ics, and physics. He stud­ied at France’s mil­i­tary school and served as the Min­is­ter of Inte­ri­or for about a month for Napoleon Bona­parte. He made it out Bonaparte’s cir­cle alive and went on to do extra­or­di­nary things with his math­e­mat­i­cal mind, like cre­ate a the­o­ry stat­ing that if we knew every­thing, we could pre­dict every­thing.

He was con­sid­ered one of the most bril­liant indi­vid­u­als, adept with an advanced math­e­mat­i­cal mind, more so than his col­leagues. Even Stephen Hawk­ing wrote that “Laplace essen­tial­ly pre­dict­ed the exis­tence of black holes.”[1]

His the­o­ries in math­e­mat­i­cal physics include Laplace’s equa­tion, and the Laplace trans­form. His thought exper­i­ment called Laplace’s Demon, pro­posed that if a super intel­li­gent being knew the posi­tion and veloc­i­ty of every par­ti­cle in the uni­verse, it could pre­dict the future com­plete­ly. This laid the foun­da­tion to deter­min­ism in clas­si­cal physics and clas­si­cal mechanics.

He wrote numer­ous works includ­ing The Sys­tem of the World Vol­umes One and Two, pub­lished in 1809, A Trea­tise Upon Ana­lyt­i­cal Mechan­ics, pub­lished in 1814, A Philo­soph­i­cal Essay on Prob­a­bil­i­ties, pub­lished in 1825, and five vol­umes of his work on Celes­tial Mechan­ics, pub­lished between 1829 and 1839.

I could eas­i­ly write mul­ti­ple episodes about his bril­liance, unfor­tu­nate­ly, I only had time for one peri­od so, with the help of arti­fi­cial intel­li­gence, I cre­at­ed a time machine and went back to the ear­ly nine­teenth cen­tu­ry to vis­it this bril­liant indi­vid­ual. The fol­low­ing inter­view extracts quotes from his writ­ings. Here we sat down to talk about his infa­mous demon.

GABRIELLE:
I arrive in Paris, in the ear­ly nine­teenth cen­tu­ry, in a mod­est study filled with books, ink bot­tles, and astro­nom­i­cal charts. Seat­ed at the desk is a com­posed man with a sharp gaze, which alludes to the inquis­i­tive thoughts that con­stant­ly rumi­nate in his mind. He is wear­ing a black suit with a vel­vet waist­coat. His col­lar is also vel­vet and match­es and col­or. Under his waist­coat he wears a white satin shirt with black spots on it. He stands up to greet me and I am impressed with the cash­mere trousers and black silk stock­ings. With his eye­glass dan­gling from a gold chain, he stuffs it into his coat’s pock­et. Like most French men, he is gen­til, poli, et bril­lant, kind, polite and brilliant.

GABRIELLE:
Mon­sieur Laplace, mer­ci beau­coup pour votre temps. Thank you for speak­ing with me! Espe­cial­ly across time!

PIERRE-SIMON:
Je vous en prie, madame. “Sci­ence does not fear time; it thrives across it.”

DETERMINISM AND THE CLOCKWORK UNIVERSE

GABRIELLE:

I am vis­it­ing you from the twen­ty-first cen­tu­ry. You are cur­rent­ly liv­ing at the height of New­ton­ian physics, a time when the uni­verse seems order­ly, mechan­i­cal, and pre­dictable. How does this shape your view of nature?

LAPLACE (quote from A Philo­soph­i­cal Essay on Prob­a­bil­i­ties):

“We may regard the present state of the uni­verse as the effect of its past and the cause of its future. An intel­lect which knew all forces that set nature in motion… could embrace in a sin­gle for­mu­la the move­ments of the great­est bod­ies of the uni­verse and those of the light­est atom.”

GABRIELLE:

Oh! That is a quote from your 1814 work A Philo­soph­i­cal Essay On Prob­a­bil­i­ties. I loved that work. It is tru­ly a beau­ti­ful and sur­pris­ing­ly acces­si­ble work, espe­cial­ly for its time.

PIERRE-SIMON:

Mer­ci, Madame.

GABRIELLE:

I real­ly like that you argue that prob­a­bil­i­ty is not mys­te­ri­ous but rather it’s a math­e­mat­i­cal expres­sion of uncer­tain­ty, ground­ed in rea­son. It was tru­ly a rev­o­lu­tion­ary body of work because you reframed prob­a­bil­i­ty not just as gam­bling math, but as a uni­ver­sal log­i­cal tool.

PIERRE-SIMON:

Oui! I believe that every­thing from sci­ence to dai­ly deci­sion mak­ing can be improved through the appli­ca­tion of prob­a­bilis­tic thinking.

GABRIELLE:
Was­n’t this the ori­gin of your so-called demon, which is a being of an embod­i­ment of infi­nite knowl­edge and computation?

PIERRE-SIMON: (Laughs)

Oui. It is not real­ly a demon. It’s not a super­nat­ur­al enti­ty. But rather it’s a metaphor for a per­fect pre­dic­tion. “The word ‘chance’ express­es only our igno­rance of the caus­es of the phe­nom­e­na that we observe. In oth­er words, Prob­a­bil­i­ty is rel­a­tive in part to this igno­rance, in part to our knowledge.”

GAB:

So, is it a metaphor for per­fect prediction?

PIERRE-SIMON:

Oui. Yes. Prob­a­bil­i­ty is not some­thing inher­ent in nature, it’s a reflec­tion of what we don’t know. If we had per­fect infor­ma­tion, there would be no need for prob­a­bil­i­ties, only cer­tain­ties. That’s the whole basis of his deter­min­is­tic world­view, sym­bol­ized by my Demon.

GAB:

Wow. In the twen­ty-first cen­tu­ry, where I am from, this the­o­ry that you cre­at­ed laid the philo­soph­i­cal ground­work for what we now call epis­temic prob­a­bil­i­ty, which is a prob­a­bil­i­ty based on knowl­edge or belief rather than a ran­dom phys­i­cal process.

PIERRE-SIMON:

I like that! Yes, in my uni­verse, noth­ing is uncer­tain, and prob­a­bil­i­ty is sim­ply a mea­sure of our ignorance.

GABRIELLE:
Inter­est­ing. Mind if I flip that? You state that prob­a­bil­i­ty is sim­ply a mea­sure of our igno­rance and that noth­ing is uncer­tain, but would­n’t that mean that every­thing is cer­tain? Addi­tion­al­ly, isn’t prob­a­bil­i­ty itself an admis­sion that we can’t know everything?

PIERRE-SIMON:

The the­o­ry of prob­a­bil­i­ties is at bot­tom. Noth­ing but com­mon sense reduced to cal­cu­la­tion. It teach­es us to avoid the illu­sions which often mis­lead us.

GABRIELLE:
Oh, I see. So, you are stat­ing that prob­a­bil­i­ty isn’t about ran­dom­ness, it is about what we can’t yet see.

PIERRE-SIMON:
Oui. You toss a coin, roll a die, that is not chance. What we call chance is only the mea­sure of our igno­rance. It’s com­plex causal­i­ty. If we had all the infor­ma­tion, we would be able to pre­dict every toss.

GABRIELLE:

This is so enlight­en­ing! Just to let you know from where I come from in the twen­ty-first cen­tu­ry, your con­cept of com­plex causal­i­ty was the view that dom­i­nat­ed sci­ence for decades, espe­cial­ly in the fields of physics. As a result, we were con­di­tioned to believe that our brains, our thoughts, and our choic­es were part of this great causal chain.

PIERRE-SIMON:
What changed?

GABRIELLE:
Well, in the nine­teenth and twen­ti­eth cen­turies, cracks began to form in determinism’s armor. About six­ty years after you died, a bril­liant French math­e­mati­cian by the name of Hen­ri Poin­caré dis­cov­ered that sim­ple sys­tems gov­erned by deter­min­is­tic laws, like three orbit­ing bod­ies, can behave unpre­dictably. He showed that small dif­fer­ences in their start­ing posi­tions could lead to rad­i­cal­ly dif­fer­ent out­comes over time. This became known as sen­si­tive depen­dence on ini­tial con­di­tions; the seed of what we now call chaos the­o­ry.

PIERRE-SIMON:
Real­ly?

GABRIELLE:
Like you, Mon­sieur Laplace, Hen­ri was bril­liant. He deeply admired your work, even though his the­o­ries depart­ed from yours.

PIERRE-SIMON:
Regard­less, my work was still foun­da­tion­al in the future.

GAB:
It tru­ly was! He soft­ened the idea that the uni­verse is ful­ly pre­dictable. He showed that, even in your math­e­mat­i­cal­ly per­fect world, there are sys­tems that are deter­min­is­tic in the­o­ry… but unknow­able in prac­tice. And when quan­tum mechan­ics emerged years lat­er, with prob­a­bil­i­ties baked into the very nature of par­ti­cles, it echoed Poincaré’s warn­ing: Even if the laws are exact, the out­comes… might not be.

PIERRE-SIMON:
Quan­tum mechan­ics? What is this?

GAB:
Mon­sieur Laplace, you once wrote that if an intel­li­gence could know all the posi­tions and veloc­i­ties of par­ti­cles in the uni­verse, it could pre­dict the future with per­fect accuracy.

But in the twen­ti­eth cen­tu­ry, physi­cists made a dis­cov­ery that changed everything.

They found that the tini­est build­ing blocks of nature, par­ti­cles like elec­trons, do not behave in a way that is strict­ly causal. You can­not know both their posi­tion and their veloc­i­ty with per­fect accu­ra­cy at the same time. This is not due to imper­fect mea­sure­ment; it is a fun­da­men­tal prop­er­ty of nature itself. It’s called the Heisen­berg Uncer­tain­ty Principle.

In this quan­tum world, par­ti­cles don’t fol­low a sin­gle path. Instead, they exist in a cloud of prob­a­bil­i­ties, only becom­ing def­i­nite when measured.

The uni­verse, it turns out, is not a per­fect mech­a­nism… it is a set of pos­si­bil­i­ties.
We no longer say: ‘This will hap­pen.‘
We now say: ‘This has a 70% chance of happening.’

And the out­comes? They’re not just hard to pre­dict, they are inher­ent­ly uncertain.

Nature, as one physi­cist put it, “plays dice.”

PIERRE-SIMON:
Hmm. “If prob­a­bil­i­ties express mere­ly our igno­rance, then cer­tain­ty would be the ide­al. But, if nature itself plays with dice…” Could unpre­dictabil­i­ty be a fea­ture of the uni­verse, rather than a reflec­tion of our limitations?

Curi­ous.

So, the laws per­sist, but their pre­dic­tions defy us, not by their form, but by their sen­si­tiv­i­ty. It seems, even cer­tain­ty may wear a mask. Per­haps, deter­min­ism is not denied, but mere­ly dis­tant, vis­i­ble only through a veil too fine for our instru­ments to pierce. An invis­i­ble cer­tain­ty, hid­ing in the shad­ows of pre­ci­sion. So, tell me more about this quan­tum mechan­ics and how it serves you in the twen­ty-first cen­tu­ry? Would my demon even exist in a quan­tum uni­verse?

GABRIELLE:
Well, the cer­tain­ty you once imag­ined, the per­fect knowl­edge that would allow a mind to pre­dict the future, is no longer pos­si­ble in the quan­tum world.

But some­thing curi­ous hap­pened, Mon­sieur Laplace.

As sci­en­tists began to accept uncer­tain­ty in Physics, anoth­er kind of mind began to emerge.

We call it arti­fi­cial intelligence,machines that learn from data.
They don’t seek cer­tain­ty. They work in prob­a­bil­i­ties, just like quan­tum physics.

Arti­fi­cial Intel­li­gence doesn’t know every­thing,  but it learns from mas­sive pat­terns. It can pre­dict dis­eases, opti­mize cities, com­pose music, even write con­vinc­ing human dia­logue, like the dia­logue we are hav­ing right now.

In some ways, Mon­sieur, it’s YOUR demon, brought to life with codes and sil­i­con.
But unlike your vision, it thrives on incom­plete information.

It can’t see the entire uni­verse. But it can make sur­pris­ing­ly accu­rate guess­es… with just a lit­tle piece of it.

PIERRE-SIMON:
Hmm­mm. Inter­est­ing.

GABRIELLE:
So I must ask you, Mon­sieur Laplace…in the twen­ty-first cen­tu­ry age of algo­rithms and neur­al net­works, is arti­fi­cial intel­li­gence a dig­i­tal ver­sion of your Demon?

PIERRE-SIMON:
A machine that draws knowl­edge from uncer­tain­ty. That learns from pat­terns, rather than for­mu­las. Mon Dieu. Then it seems the future has not aban­doned my Demon, it has trans­formed it.

I imag­ined an intel­li­gence born of cer­tain­ty, with the uni­verse laid bare before it. But you have cre­at­ed minds that rea­son from the unknown that thrive with­in shad­ows and yet bring forth light. This is not a betray­al of rea­son; it is its evo­lu­tion. You have made tools that bend to com­plex­i­ty, not con­quer it. And yet… they pre­dict, they adapt… they learn.

I am aston­ished. And I con­fess, je suis pro­fonde­ment emu. I am deeply moved. For even if the uni­verse plays with dice, you have taught the dice to whis­per their secrets.

“To pre­dict per­fect­ly is to know per­fect­ly. And man… is but a shad­ow on the sun­di­al of truth.”

GABRIELLE:
Mon­sieur, sil vous plait, I have one more ques­tion. If every­thing is pre­dictable, where does all this leave free will?

PIERRE-SIMON:
The will is only the result of the impres­sion made upon the brain by exter­nal objects and by the state of the organs. If one had suf­fi­cient knowl­edge of all these fac­tors, one could pre­dict with cer­tain­ty the action of the indi­vid­ual. But the weight of truth rests not on cer­tain­ty, but on our pur­suit of understanding.

GABRIELLE:
So, we’re back to certainty.

Laugh­ter

GABRIELLE:
Pierre-Simon Laplace imag­ined a uni­verse gov­erned by rea­son and rules. His demon was not evil, but curi­ous. Not super­nat­ur­al, but log­i­cal. It was the ulti­mate dream of Enlight­en­ment sci­ence: that knowl­edge could con­quer uncertainty.

But today, we know that even the sharpest minds can’t see every vari­able. That some pat­terns are unpre­dictable. And that some­times, we must embrace the unknown. It is through embrac­ing the unknown that we find the abil­i­ty to adapt to the prob­a­bil­i­ties of the uni­verse and pur­sue a new­er insight.

Thank you for join­ing me on this incred­i­ble jour­ney through time and thought at Math! Sci­ence! His­to­ry! And until next time, whether its in the now, in the future, or as in today’s case, in our his­to­ries, carpe diem!


[1] Hawk­ing, Stephen W., and George F. R. Ellis. The Large Scale Struc­ture of Space-Time: 50th Anniver­sary Edi­tion. Cam­bridge Mono­graphs on Math­e­mat­i­cal Physics. Cam­bridge: Cam­bridge Uni­ver­si­ty Press, 2023. https://doi.org/10.1017/9781009253161.

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